Most of us hadn’t seen anything quite like Sex and the City on television when it aired in the late ’90s and ’00s. While a group of gal pals sitting around, talking openly about sex and their lives was seen as pretty groundbreaking at the time, Sarah Jessica Parker says the show wasn’t “intentionally empowering,” but instead just an authentic look at life.

Carrie Bradshaw said what now?

Six seasons and two movies later, Parker sat down with actress Michelle Pfeiffer for Variety’s Actors on Actors and discussed the show, admitting that the word “empowering” wasn’t used on set or by the writers of the romantic dramedy — even though many find it to be just that.

That being the case, how did SJP view the ultimate message of the show?

Well, it was an authentic look at life:

You can watch the full interview between the two actresses here:

And now we’re about ready to binge Sex and the City for the hundredth time.