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Filmmaker and director Ava DuVernay is no stranger to success. Her 2014 film, Selma, earned both Golden Globe and Oscar nominations, as well as making many “Best of 2014” lists. Not only is she documenting history, she’s making it: DuVernay scored the first “Best Director” Golden Globe nomination for a black woman. Her newest endeavor, a brilliant documentary, proves that Selma was just the beginning.

13th, a Netflix documentary that explores racism in the penal system, earned DuVernay an Oscar nomination for “Best Documentary.”

The film argues that the modern penal system creates, in effect, modern slavery.

The documentary prompted “a much needed global conversation,” says Netflix’s VP of documentaries, Lisa Nishimura.

Out of those discussions came the idea for 13th: A Conversation with Oprah Winfrey and Ava DuVernay. As Nishimura added in a statement:

The special, released on January 26th, covers a behind-the-scenes look at the film. Additionally, Oprah and Ava DuVernay discuss reactions to the film. Perhaps inevitably, the conversation also includes the current political state in the US.

In addition to 13th, several other documentaries about racial issues scored Oscar nominations, including Ezra Edelman’s O.J.: Made in America, and Raoul Peck’s I Am Not Your Negro.

The impact of these films is to educate, of course, and DuVernay has said:

Click below to see a snippet of the dynamic conversation between the two:

We can’t wait to see the rest!