The always-epic Interview magazine recently outdid itself with an A+ feature in which Diane Keaton interviews Emma Stone. We can’t get over the two ladies adorably Internet-searching each other pre-interview to get prepped (Keaton basically memorized Stone’s Wikipedia page, and Stone became a fast fan of Keaton’s Pinterest boards). Also, we just love the honest and insightful convo the two had. It should be noted that both women are considered Woody Allen muses and have starred in his films — so they do have that in common. Judging by the interview, it seems they have a lot more in common as well.
The entire interview is packed-to-the-gills delightful, and is basically the interview equivalent of eating your favorite candy. So yes, check it out.
But first as follows, our fave highlights:
The pros and cons of knowing what you want
KEATON: I was on the cover of Interview magazine [January 1987] . . . and in that interview, I said, “The best way of getting something is not to let anyone know you want it — including yourself.” Do you say things like that to yourself in order to just not feel guilty about being so successful and ambitious?
STONE: [laughs] Well, you know what? What’s strange about the way my brain functions is that the only thing that has ever made me feel calm is knowing clearly what I want . . . I feel safer when I know what I want. When I don’t know what I want, I feel like I’m flailing through the universe. I need to get better at the not being clear about things.
On aging and stardom
KEATON: [In an interview with Cameron Crowe] you said something that really resonated with me. You said that people become frozen in the time when they become successful because that’s when their whole life experience kind of galvanized. They became successful for being that person at that time. And they really have to fight in order to grow past that. That’s just a remarkable remark. What made you even think of that?
STONE: Did Cameron say that or did I say that? Well, jeez. Maybe I read it somewhere. [laughs] There’s no way I came up with that, because I hadn’t experienced that at that point. But now I’ve seen people that have been famous or successful for a very long time who can still get stuck in that. It’s like they’re staying at the age in which people . . .
KEATON: Liked them the best.
STONE: Right. The universally accepted version of yourself.
KEATON: You can’t do that, though. Even if you try.
On “different” being “beautiful”
KEATON: And I consider things like complexity and a certain kind of off-kilter aspect to a person as important components of beauty. But when you think of beauty, how do you define it?
STONE: . . .The more unique the better. When you feel that a person is being true to how they want to look or what their face is, I think there’s something about the acceptance of oneself that I can feel from people. That tends to be what I’m attracted to.
On the weirdness of being famous and having fans
KEATON: So when your dream came true and you became this big movie star actress, did you feel a kind of responsibility to the people who gave you your stardom in a way, like your fans? I mean, what is your relationship to your fans?
STONE: I don’t feel any different from anyone. I am such a diehard fan — as you of all people should know. [laughs] I know what it is to be a fan. But I don’t think I’ve ever really considered the idea of having fans. I think I’m always sort of ducking that, thinking it’s more about the work, the project itself, than me, in particular, that’s speaking to people. So I’ve never really taken it all that personally, as if it has something to do with me. Maybe that’s unwise. But when someone comes up to you and says something truly heartfelt about work you’ve done, that means a lot.
The entire interview is aces, you should absolutely check it out over on Interview’s website.
Also, the cover is 100.