Talking about the allegations against Aziz Ansari is uncomfortable. The recent Saturday Night Live sketch about the comedian perfectly sums up how difficult it can be to discuss the nuances of sexual assault. But the more we discuss consent, the better everyone’s understanding becomes. And Amy Schumer, a friend of Ansari’s, is continuing that conversation.

In an episode of the Katie Couric Podcast released on February 1st, Amy Schumer spoke about the #MeToo movement and the allegations of sexual assault against Ansari. “I don’t think anyone wants to see Aziz’s career ruined or his life ruined or anything like that, but that’s where people’s minds go,” Schumer told Couric. “They go, ‘Does he deserve this?’ And it’s really not about that. I think it’s about expressing and showing women that that behavior is not okay and not only can you leave, but you need to leave. Because then the women who come after you, you’re leaving a mark for them too.”

Schumer acknowledged her friendship with Ansari but said she isn’t making excuses for him. “He’s been my friend and I really feel for the woman. I identify with all the women in these situations. Even if it’s my friend, I don’t go, ‘Oh, but he’s a good guy.’ I think, ‘What would it feel like to have been her?'”

Amy Schumer also spoke to Katie Couric about how even though these conversations can be hard to have, they must be continued.

Women shouldn’t be expected to comment when a friend is accused of sexual misconduct. But we’re glad that Amy Schumer felt comfortable speaking out about the allegations against Aziz Ansari. Her words are a great reminder that we need to keep having an open dialogue about sexual harassment and assault.