A spot in Taylor Swift’s squad is a highly coveted position. But in an interview with The Guardian, Lorde noted that there is a downside to being Swift’s friend. Of course, Lorde had nothing bad to say about the friend who threw her a pretty epic 20th birthday last year. Instead, the New Zealand singer was talking about what it’s like to be friends with an überfamous person.

Of course, Lorde’s fame has skyrocketed since she released the song “Royals” in 2013, but Swift is kind of in a fame stratosphere all her own. And Lorde explained that it doesn’t always make going out in public places very easy. As she told The Guardian:

As has been reported time and time again, Swift rolls deep with a squad full of talented women. While we usually long to be part of Swift’s elite crew, Lorde makes a very excellent point about the realistic limitations that are placed on a friendship that gets so much attention from the media.

Yet the pros of a friendship with Swift seem to outweigh the cons for Lorde.

She explained to The Guardian why she surrounds herself with famous friends like Swift, Florence Welch of Florence + the Machine, Jack Antonoff, and Lena Dunham. She said:

So even though Lorde and Swift probably can’t spend a normal day on the streets of a city together, we’re happy they have each other as fiercely supportive friends.