I F-ing Love Science Facebook Run By A Girl, Stupid People Respond With Their Outside VoiceJulia Gazdag

Last week, Elise Andrew, who runs the I F*cking Love Science Facebook page that has 4.3 million fans, posted a link to her newly created Twitter account, which included a photo of her.

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Cut to a bajillion people using their keyboards before their smarts, going berserk over the fact that the page was run by a girl. Let’s take a look at some of the super fun comments this post got!

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WAIT. STOP EVERYTHING FOR ME SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THIS IMPOSSIBLE PARADOX OF GIRL + SCIENCE

 

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…How much time DO you spend picturing the people behind Facebook pages?

 

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Bro, can you put this info into a meme so I can understand it gooder?

 

YOURE-A-GIRL

See, he said nice things, so it’s okay for him to be surprised that girls can have smart too.

 

XD

XD indeed, sir. XD indeed.

Then there were the surprised comments that thought they were being nice by commenting on Elise’s looks, because girls don’t have to ask to be judged on their looks, it’s just a given that everyone gets to do it! Yeah! It’s not look-ism if you’re being nice about it, right? As Andrew said to Yahoo!, “I’ve had people tell me I should be happy about all the comments on my looks because so many are complimentary—they can’t seem to grasp why it might make me feel uncomfortable to read thousands of comments all discussing my appearance.”

 

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Ugly girls who love science, move along.

 

Then there’s this one:

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Instead of the JK, maybe just hit delete until your browser dies.

 

This I don’t even know what to do with, especially because there were several comments like it:

heels

May RuPaul have mercy on your soul.

 

This person is getting a high five for snark:

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 Then there’s this convo, which I’ll let you make up your mind whether it’s serious or not, though it’s weak as hell for a joke:

dumbest convo ever

I’m sorry to have to be the one to tell you this sir, but you have tested positive for stupid. Let’s discuss treatment options.

You guys. YOU GUYS. All she did was get a Twitter account. How is it even a thing that she’s a girl? This is why there aren’t more women in math and science fields — because asshats like this still think that gender makes a difference. This mentality goes all the way from how lab partners treat each other in middle school to who hires whom well into adulthood. It’s ignorant, it’s sexist, and it’s preventing science from progressing through great minds who aren’t being given a chance.

Funny how all these people f*cking love science, and yet don’t know that both penis and vagina people have the same brains in their heads.

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  1. This is a really great article but I have one small beef… You yourself called her a girl a few times…. She’s a woman. Leave calling her a girl to the stupid trolls.

  2. And to Judy Tyrer, hormones do not effect the brain in terms of intelligence which as a human being of moderate discerning capabilities with the particular ability to conclude context, you get that, right?

  3. The comment by the guy who is desperately trying to sound intelligent, himself, but can’t bring himself to defend a woman without first making sure we think that she is really quite trite and nothing worthy of real admiration say’s he wishes her page was more about science and less with the “memes,” however if she were a guy, he would enjoy the memes and just chalk it up to personality which is apparently only acceptable in males among these sorts of “intelligent,” men.

    • Tilly: Respectfully, I disagree! My dissatisfaction with the page has to do with the content, not the gender or sex of the person involved. I dunno what about my post sounded like it was striving to come across as “intelligent”–looking back, the highest five-cent word I could find was “vapid,” which you see pretty often in discussions on the net. I’ll give you this: People who comment online are often more motivated by their dislikes than their likes, and I was definitely guilty of that in my first post. In knee-jerkingly stating my dissatisfaction first, sure, I neglected a better balanced post. But I followed up right afterward. The more biting critique would be that I wasted time complaining about memes when they’re part and parcel with social media. I never said she was trite (her page is very different than her identity as a person, right?), I don’t think the concept of “admiration” is relevant to just about anyone who maintains a page on Facebook, and I’m 100% sure that she doesn’t need defense from me or anyone else.

  4. Something to think about. If she were to actually be an indian girl, would the responses have been similar?

  5. Hang on… isn’t WHY they were surprised she was a girl the issue? You can’t really tell that from the comments. You have assumed it is for negative rather than neutral or positive reasons.

    • I don’t think what TYPE of surprise matters… even if they were pleasantly surprised, it still shows they didn’t expect a woman to be capable of authoring such an awesome science webpage. It’s still stereotyping women.

  6. To include my own stereotyping: I’m not surprised that the owner of the page is a young person, because the volume of posts every day is at least half “I fucking love cutesy vapid memes.” I do like some of what she posts, but I’d much rather have a feed that was consistently about, well, the science that it claims to be about. If anyone would like to make some suggestions, I’m all ears.

    • That said, all of the people decrying the existence of this article seriously don’t get it. Let’s be clear about a few things: Women have been oppressed in most societies since the dawn of time. It has only been in the last century or so that we’ve come to recognize it as people, and fight against it. If you think equality of opportunity has been reached in the professions between men and women, you’re kidding yourself — don’t do that, it just hurts your ability to see the world. So, given that we know women are consistently discouraged from entering the sciences and are frequently treated to condescending comments about their looks in a way that men rarely are, it’s perfectly reasonable to write a blog post condemning the facile assumptions of these posts — ESPECIALLY on a subject like science, in which not making assumptions is of the highest priority. I understand -wanting- to live in a world in which commenting on a woman’s “pretty” looks is simply a compliment, but dissing this piece for accurately pointing out the gendered discourse we have around the sciences is essentially asking the author to just brush these insights under the carpet so we can all keep living in the same manufactured environment and avoid drama. No writer ever said anything interesting that way.

  7. Awesome all the way up until the last line. As a scientist, you must know that hormonal differences DO affect the brain. You do know that, right?

  8. My dear! As I am not surprised that the owner of the FB page is a woman, I am also not surprised at the horribly misogynistic comments that ensued; not only from men but also from women.

    As I am strenuously trying to change human beings’ outlook on women, it is an up-hill battle because of this horribly patriarchy in which we live.

    But we shall fight on!

  9. My first thought on this whole brouhaha was to call my math & science geek daughters over to the computer.

    They’re first response? “Kewl! Now what did you want us to see?”

  10. What’s even worse? She’s Canadian..

  11. It has nothing to do with “don’t know that both penis and vagina people have the same brains in their heads”.

    It has to do with the fact that only 1 in 7 engineers is a woman, less than 20 percent of bachelor’s degrees in computer science go to women, even though female graduates hold 60 percent of all bachelor’s degrees, etc.

    I’m sure a scientist whose a woman could have the same qualifications as a male scientist, but the fact of the matter is that we need to get more women in STEM fields.

  12. I F-ing love you for writing this!

  13. I creeped her FB page too, after reading the about section of IFLS. I admin a Science page aimed at parents for youth programming. I couldn’t repost her funny memes or her great science contributions. I stole them and credited her-she was gracious, would not relent on the “fucking” part, I got that. I am a parent that wouldn’t care either. I, as a woman, will admit to not understanding all the hubbub until my husband explained that smart women are actually not the norm. There are plenty out there, but society trains them to keep it on the down low. I don’t know anything about that, I’ve never caved. Neither will Elise Andrew… Go girl science!

  14. u mad?

  15. You’re a girl?!

  16. Does anyone remember this riddle? I feel like it illustrates the point well.
    A man and his son are driving in a car one day, when they get into a fatal accident. The man is killed instantly. The boy is knocked unconscious, but he is still alive. He is rushed to hospital, and will need immediate surgery. The doctor enters the emergency room, looks at the boy, and says… “I can’t operate on this boy, he is my son.” How is this possible?

    • Wow. I had to look the answer up. And I KNEW it had something to do about sexism. That’s very interesting. My boyfriend and I both couldn’t figure it out.

      • Oh my god I’m so shocked by myself that i took me ages to work that out! a reminder of how stereotyping I am :(

  17. Julia, your writing is perfect, I have no words but awe, everything I felt you emulated perfectly with your words. Thank you for being a conscious mind in this pervasively ignorant and disengaged society (not to be pessimistic or anything).

    -Jess

  18. I confess I was unaware of this website until a friend posted this article. I have way too much to say on the topic to post here, except to say that when I was young, I wanted to be a doctor; was excellent in biology, chemistry/biochem, not so good in maths, physics. However, most sciences interest me, and I was the only girl in my middle school who was in the chess club,. I’ve also had a lifelong goal to go into space, and dreamed of meeting aliens (at least the ‘Close Encounter of the’ or ‘E.T. kind!) Lastly, I’d like to alert you to another two female scientists (one of whom was the mother of an acquaintance of mine) – Rosalyn Sussman Yalow (July 19, 1921 – May 30, 2011) was an American medical physicist, and a co-winner of the 1977 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine (together with Roger Guillemin and Andrew Schally) for development of the radioimmunoassay (RIA) technique. She was the second American woman to be awarded the Nobel Prize Physiology or Medicine after Gerty Cori.[2]

  19. What? You mean people on “The Internets” are rude and basically trolls? You must be joking right?

    This goes on the long way these days of beating a dead horse with sexism (cf. Sarkeesian). Yes, you’ll always get negative comments when you have such a huge fanbase, no matter your gender, race, or religious beliefs.

    Don’t get me wrong, I am not condoning such behavior, all I can say is:

    Welcome to the Internet.

    PS: the vocal minority of trolls is not representative of the majority of balanced and open minded people.

    • I love how your view of the majority is ‘balanced and open minded people’! Where do you live!? Cause I want to move there and be amongst your majority. In all my life, schooling, work in law, politics, charity, business and general breathing, I have yet to come across a majority that is what you describe. Albeit, yes people act extra ‘troll’ like on the internet, but I am pretty sure the sexism you are witnessing from the commenting males on here is a pretty accurate depiction of what they really think. You see, people feel safer to be themselves on the internet, commenting what they otherwise would put into more politically correct terms in real life. I found this hilarious and simultaneously quite sadly realistic!

  20. “The history of mankind is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations on the part of man toward woman.” This assessment was made in the Seneca Falls, New York, Declaration of Sentiments, written in America in 1848, protesting injustice toward women.
    The Human Development Report 1995 (A United Nations Publication), when commenting on the negative perception and attitude globally prevalent toward women connected the problem to “cultural and social values,” that need to change.
    Unfortunately, the mentally diseased epidemic of thinking women are in some way inferior to men is widespread and deeply entrenched. I would like to apologize to women, for the stupidity that my gender has displayed in this matter.